Tuesday, April 10, 2007

a4 to us letter

i get documents all the time that are laid out for A4 paper. when i go to print them, my printer asks me to load A4 paper ... well, i don't have the a4 paper cartridge for it so i can't do anything but cancel the print job.

if it's an odf doc then no problem: just reset the page size. but what if it is a pdf? no problem, kword opens up pdf's well enough and then i can resize the page there.

however, i'm really interested after reading albert's blogs on printing in kpdf and a nice new pdftk frontend. hopefully there'll be a way in okular or this new pdftk thing to switch between paper sizes.

or i could just buy an a4 printer or move to europe and not deal with the inconsistencies anymore ;)

14 comments:

Henrik Pauli said...

The A series is superior anyway :3 You will be assimilated ;)

Christoph Bartoschek said...

I wonder why you have to change the document.

When I have to print a "letter" document I just change the paper size to "A4" in the print dialog and get the desired result.

Philipp Schmieder said...

Buy an A4 printer and use the good and superior German DIN A4 (DIN stands for „Deutsche Industrie-Norm“) format ;-)

gregor said...

@philipp thats wrong. din means "deutsches institut für normung".
(in german) http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsches_Institut_für_Normung
(in english) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsches_Institut_für_Normung

Mehdi said...

@gregor
Philipp is not really wrong. The term previously did really stand for "Deutsche Industrie-Norm". But the Acronym now stands for "Deutsches Institut fuer Normung e.V."

Here an excerpt from "Wahrig" dictionary:

DIN (urspr. Abk. fuer) Deutsche Industrie-Norm; (heute Abk. fuer) Deutsches Institut fuer Normung e.V.; ...

Aaron J. Seigo said...

@bartoschek: probably because A4 is bigger than letter; so when you switch letter -> A4, you just get bigger-than-intended margins but everything fits. going from A4->letter one actually has to down-size the document.

Anonymous said...

Aaron, as it was said, just go and buy an A4 printer. You can use those easily to print on letter papers, usually they have the marks how to set up the feeder to accept the smaller letter papers.

Anonymous said...

May be you could use a non-KDE-application for doing this. Adobe Reader has the option "fit to printer margins". May be this works?
Mark

Aaron J. Seigo said...

> May be you could use a
> non-KDE-application for doing
> this. Adobe Reader

Reader is proprietary software. when there are Free software alternatives, i'll use them first even if it means giving up a feature here or there.

it pains me enough to use Skype and non-Free codecs to watch certain media.

Christoph Bartoschek said...

A4 is 210mm x 297mm.
Letter is 216mm x 280mm.

This means that letter is wider but nearly 20mm shorter than A4.

I guess you are right with your pain because nowadays a lot of documents do not have the required margins for good looking text on A4. The bottom margin should be at least 3cm which should be enough for a letter printer

Jon Severinsson said...

@philip: Why use DIN 476, when you can use ISO 216. They are exactly the same, but you don't have to learn German.

@aron: A4 is taller than Letter, but Letter is wider than A4, so both has to be shrinked to print on the other. So if shrinking A4 -> Letter works (It does in KPDF, I've tried), why shouldn't shrinking Letter -> A4 Work.

BTW: There are exactly zero (0) printers on the market that can handle Letter and not A4, as separate models for just the US is to expensive to manufacture. So you don't have to buy a new printer, only paper. A4 paper reportedly exist in most office supply chains, though you must ask to get them, and not all clerks will know what you're talking about.

Hubert said...

the PDF reader should be able to do that without you touching anything. In that case, that mean reducing the page a little bit to fit in Letter....

Sara said...

Hi All of you. I am in the UK and we use the good old A4 paper as standard. However we have a US client and so I have been asked to get hold of US Letter size Dividers, Plastic wallets and paper. Paper is not too much of a problem, but can I find a supplier for the rest? No I can not!!! :o/ Aagghh!!

Anonymous said...

Hi Sara,

Could you tell me where to obtain letter size paper in Europe? I can't seem to find it myself, most local paper stores only seem to have A4?

Thanks in advance,

J